Slingbox
Alternative/Replacement
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The new Slingbox Replacement Setup consists of the below items:
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There are now THREE
different ways to get your own slingbox replacement!
Method #1: The popular "Do-It-Yourself" setup (described later on this page)
This method does require some technical knowledge, but it's far from rocket science, and once you set it up, it is very easy to use and I am confident you will be happy with the results.
Method #2: The "Assisted" DIY setup:
This method is a combination of the below DIY method along with my Personal One-On-One Service. With this method, you can get your Slingbox Replacement up and running without the small monthly fee of the below Plug-N-Play method, and you won't need a lot of technical knowledge to set it up because I will be doing most of the heavy lifting for you. See the Green box near the bottom of this page for more details about my personal one-on-one service.
Method #3: The new
"Plug-n-Play Solution":
Plug-N-Play Solution We designed
a new solution that will literally allow you to
just plug your video source into the encoder,
then plug the encoder into your router and then
watch your video source from anywhere!
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So, Let's get started!
Method #1: Slingbox DIY Replacement Instructions
Choose one of the following models:
2-Port 4K VIDEO (no WiFi): https://amzn.to/4dzy9Qt for $249 on Amazon.com
1-Port 4K VIDEO (no WiFi): https://amzn.to/3SGene8 for $229 on Amazon.com
2-Port 1080p HD video (no WiFi): https://amzn.to/408JQYZ for $228 on Amazon.com
1-Port 1080p HD video w/WiFi: https://amzn.to/3WTPDBC for $209 on Amazon.com
1-Port 1080p HD video (no WiFi): https://amzn.to/3QcQuc7 for $198 on Amazon.comNotes:
If your video source outputs 4K Video, you should get the 4K encoder above, unless you have an HDMI splitter and can down-size one of its outputs to 1080p so you can then connect that output to one of the 1080p encoders. If your video source only outputs 1080p HD, then you can save some money and get one of the 1080p encoders.
The unit(s) with 2-port allows you to connect the encoder in-series between your video source and your TV, thus reducing wires. With 1-port versions, you will probably need to use an HDMI splitter like this https://amzn.to/3gDh2SU ($15) so that you can have both the encoder and your TV connected to your video source.
Update 8/11/22: A couple of users have informed me that the 2-port unit does not pass multi-channel audio (such as 5.1) to the local TV display connected to the "output" port of the encoder (the encoder only passes the left and right audio to the TV). So, if you want to preserve multi-channel audio from your video source to your TV display, you should use a splitter (such as this one https://amzn.to/3gDh2SU ($15). This way all the audio channels will be routed through the splitter to your TV display, and the encoder (which is connected to different output of the splitter) will still receive the audio and video as usual and encode it and output the stream(s). Also, if you already purchased the 2-port unit, there is no need to replace it with a one-port encoder - you can still use the 2-port with a splitter by connecting one of the outputs of the splitter to the "Input" of the 2-Port and just leave the "Output" port blank (nothing connected to it). Yes, adding a splitter introduces additional cables and another electronic device that may need to be rebooted on occasion (see below pro tip). However, if having 5.1 audio on your local TV is not important, then the 2-port encoder is recommended because it helps both increase reliability by being an all-in-one solution and reduces cabling.
Pro Tip: I personally have been running my Uray encoder for almost six months straight without having to reboot it once. But to play it safe, I have it connected to a smart plug so that if I am ever away and the encoder crashes for some reason, I can save the day and simply remotely power it off and back on to reboot it. I recommend Kasa smart devices because:
The Kasa app is free, easy to use and supports scheduling and timers for its devices
Kasa (tp-link) has the most assortment of smart devices I have seen; from small smart plugs, to smart outlet strips, cameras, full-color bulbs to all sorts of light switches including motion sensing and even a 3-Way Dimmer!
Kasa devices work with Alexa and Google Assistant
Kasa devices are inexpensive - $20 for a 2-pack of smart plugs (see below)
NO MONTHLY CHARGE to control your switches and plugs!
Smart Plugs (2-pack): https://amzn.to/3JNCCRS ($20)
Kasa Amazon Store: https://amzn.to/3QpxKFe
Select one of the following (see below notes):
BroadLink IR RM4 Mini Blaster: https://amzn.to/3oAJwhj ($26 on Amazon.com)
BroadLink IR/RF RM4 Pro Blaster: https://amzn.to/3qXmhCq ($45 on Amazon.com)
SwitchBot Hub Mini Smart Remote: https://amzn.to/3BHc6Yr ($32 on Amazon.com)
MoesGo IR/RF Universal Remote Controller: https://amzn.to/3BKrSBC ($40 on Amazon.com)
MoesGo IR Universal Remote Controller: https://amzn.to/3YA3VZi ($20 on Amazon.com)
Notes:
Most remotes use an IR signal to control your equipment. You can usually tell if your remote is IR if you need to aim it at your equipment for it to work. But some remotes use an RF signal, which works even from another room (doesn't need line-of-sight to work).
The capabilities of the above blasters vary a great deal, so if one doesn't work with your equipment, another one might work.
OVERVIEW VIDEO: This video shows a different and more
complex system than mine (my slingbox alternative setup is
much simpler than the one shown in the video), but this
video will give you a good overall understanding on how the
system works (NOTE: you can ignore most of this video that
talks about setting up the encoder on the PC because the
URay encoder will do all of that!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WD4-5r9Glk
With my slingbox alternative setup, you don't need to use a separate Capture Device, Dedicated Computer powered-on 24/7, and a bunch of Software as mentioned in the video because the Uray encoder does the work of ALL of them!
What's cool about the Uray encoder is that:
The 2-port versions of the HDMI encoder connects "in series" (no splitter needed) between your video source (Tivo/Sat/Cable box) and your HDMI TV. It converts the HDMI signal into a streaming format and sends it out from your home network to the internet.
The "wired" versions of the encoder connects to your house's network using a wired Ethernet connection. The encoder has a default IP address of 192.168.1.168 (port 80). The wifi versions work the same way, just using wifi instead of using a cable. To access the encoders' settings (it's "web portal"), simply open a browser while connected to your local network and navigate to the above default address. The default username is "admin" with "admin" also as the password. I highly recommend setting up a new STRONG password to the encoder's web portal (you can't change the username on the uray).
A lot of the encoder settings you can leave as is. However, I would make one change to the audio setting - change it from the default sample rate of 41000 to 48000. It will just give you clearer high-end "sibilance" (the "S" sound in words like "Special") with hardly any increase in stream bitrate.
Your home's internet connection is assigned a particular IP address on the internet. To find out your home's IP address, just go to https://www.whatismyip.com using any browser while connected to your home network. This IP address typically stays the same for broadband users, but can change, especially when you reboot your modem. Write down your home's IP address. For the example below, we will use "34.178.28.12". (see one of the pro-tips below on how to use a Dynamic DNS service so you can use a fixed domain name instead of an IP address)
5/19/22 UPDATE - Instead of using the RTSP or HLS format (as mentioned below), I am now recommending to use the TS format because it offers super low latency which will benefit greatly when remote controlling your video source (such as when using the Broadlink app or the remote Tivo app if you have a Tivo) by being able to see the response to your button presses within a second or two! (the TS url format is: http://yourstreamip:port/0.ts for the main stream)In order for someone (i.e. you) on the internet to connect into the streaming output of the encoder, you need to setup a "port forwarding" rule in your home's router that will route the incoming stream request (from your streaming app running on your phone) to the encoder's IP address (and Port 80 for HLS/FLV/TS, or port 554 for RTSP) on your home network. So, for example, you could setup a port forwarding rule that would route any connection requests on port 10000 to internal network address of 192.168.1.168 (port 80/554). (this step is shown in the example video mentioned earlier in this page). For more help with port forwarding see these videos How to setup Port Forwarding. Note: for port forwarding to work, the encoder needs to have a fixed IP address (that the forwarded port rule will point to), so do NOT enable dhcp mode inside the encoder's network settings.
The encoder outputs four different streams and each stream has a stream type "url suffix". For example, the RSTP type url suffix for the main stream output is "/0". This way, when your video streaming app wants to connect to your video stream, it would use the internet address of rtsp://34.178.28.12:10000/0 (notice the "rtsp://" stream type prefix and then the ending url suffix of "/0" (with a colon separating your home's IP address and the port forwarding number 10000).
The encoder also supports the HLS protocol, which works great with VLC and with my app - see page bottom. However the HLS format does buffer the video for 8+ seconds, which is great to prevent buffer pauses with slower internet connections, but causes a huge delay when remote controlling your video source using the Broadlink app, my app or the Tivo app. The HLS protocol uses the URL format: http://34.178.28.12:10000/0.m3u8 (notice the normal "http://" url prefix and the HLS "/0.m3u8" suffix)Pro Tip: To add security to your stream, you can add a password to the end of the stream URL (url suffix). So, for example, instead of using the RTSP default url suffix value of "/0", you could change it to something like "/045645656". This way a hacker will have no idea what the full url is even if they figure out the port number! (Note: Remember to reboot the encoder after making any changes to a stream URL)
Pro Tip: If you connect the Uray encoder to a smart power switch, then if you are ever away from your home and if the encoder starts to not operate correctly, you can remotely reboot it. (Note: I have been running my uray encoder for over 6 months without ever needing to reboot it)
Pro Tip: a UK user was experiencing an interlace issue with the URAY encoder and their cablebox, and they said setting their box to "1080p" and setting the "Deinterlaced" setting in the "Advanced" tab of the URay portal to "Bottom Only" worked for them.
Pro Tip: Most ISP's will block any incoming port 80 connections so that you can't setup your own "website server" on their network. So if you try to setup a port forwarding rule and use port 80 as the "input port", it will probably not work. That is why I suggest setting up the incoming port as 10000 and forward it to port 80 on the encoder (for all protocols except RTSP) because your ISP can not block you from using port 80 on your local network.Pro Tip: You can use the web service https://canyouseeme.org to test if your port forwarding rule is correctly setup.
You can use the popular VLC app as shown in the above youtube video (or with my app that offers some cool unique features that vlc doesn't have - see page bottom). Many platforms (Windows/iOS/Android/Amazon Fire Stick, etc) have a version of the VLC player app in it's respective app store. Just select "Open Network Stream" from within the VLC app and type in the special video streaming URL for your home's encoder to view your stream. Have fun!
This is easily accomplished with a remote IR controller/blaster such as the BroadLink RM4 (https://amzn.to/3oAJwhj) or one of the other IR blasters mentioned at the top of this article.
You would first install the Broadlink app on your phone and configure it to your home video source's box make and model so it will know the correct IR codes to send to your box. You would then place the circular broadlink device in front of your Tivo/Cable/Sat box and then tap on the desired buttons in the Broadlink app, and it will tell the broadlink device to transmit the desired IR codes to your video source box to perform the various requested functions remotely.
Pro Tip: To obtain super-fast response to your IR remote commands (maybe even faster then Slingbox itself!), use the "TS" encoding format instead of HLS. Please note, because there is very little buffering used with the TS format, you will need a reliable internet connection to prevent skips.
TIVO Android Tip: If your source is a Tivo, you may be in luck! I just found a great FREE app that allows you to FULLY control your Tivo without the need of an IR Blaster because the app sends commands directly to your Tivo over the internet. All you need to do is setup an additional port-forwarding rule that routes into port 1413 of your Tivo's IP address, then enter your home's URL, and the Tivo's "Media Key" code (found in the settings of your tivo) into the app. Here is the android app in the Google Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arantius.tivocommander
*** Please remember to leave a 5-star review for the developer of this app who obviously spent many, many hours writing it, and then offer it for free with no ads!Tivo iOS version: I don't have an iPhone, but a user did confirm that this iOS app offers the same ability to remote control your Tivo when used with a DDNS service: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/peanut-remote-for-tivo-dvr/id416909676.
Xfinity Tip: Your cable company might offer an app to control your cable box. A Xfinity user reported that they can use the app to control their tv box.
You will then end up with a slingbox alternative/replacement
system that:
The encoder will be waiting 24/7 for your streaming app to connect into it, then it will start streaming out whatever HDMI video signal you are inputting into the encoder, such as your Tivo/Cable/Sat box.
You would then run a VLC player app (or my app - see page bottom) on your phone or on a TV device like a Firestick to view your stream on your phone or TV.
You would then remote control your video source using the Broadlink app (or the Tivo app mentioned in the above tip). Keep in mind when using the IR Blaster, depending on the stream type you use, there can be a delay of around 10 seconds or more between the time when you press a button in the broadlink app to when you will "see" the response of the button action in the video stream - this is mostly due to stream buffering (NOTE: This delay can be reduced to 1-2 seconds if you use the TS streaming format recommended earlier).
There are some potential gotchas with this setup:
When watching the stream on your phone or tablet, the viewing app (VLC or my app below) will be running on the same device as the Broadlink IR app, so you will need to switch back and forth between the two apps to manage your video source and then view the stream. However, with my app (see below), I plan to make this switching very fast and easy.
The big reason why I wrote this article is because the cloud servers (that our slingbox needs in order to work) are being shut down soon. Likewise, the broadlink device (and just about any other internet connected device) also needs a cloud server to work. So, the remote-control part of this slingbox replacement setup could stop working if Broadlink ever goes out of business. Luckily, there are other companies that offer IR remote control products, so you can easily switch to another one if that happens.
If your home's IP address ever changes, you will have to update the player's stream URL accordingly.
Pro Tip: You can use a Dynamic DNS service like NoIp.com (use promo code REFER20 for 20% off!) so that your stream will have a friendly url like "mystream.no-ip.org" (instead of an IP address) which will stay the same even if your home's IP address changes. Most routers have built-in support for dynamic DNS services.
Pro Tip: I have seen that many Netgear routers offer FREE DDNS accounts if you own one of their routers.
Any donation to help support my work on this project would be greatly appreciated :-)
(or send to paypal email: paypal2-com@max-soft.com)
I would love to hear your success story, so when you get your slingbox replacement up and running,
Please email me and let me know how it went!(Please also let me know how you discovered this article)
Method #2: Assisted DIY Setup Personal ONE-ON-ONE Support Service If you are running into problems getting your slingbox replacement setup working, I now offer a personal one-on-one support service over a phone call and using google's remote desktop to help get you up and running! I will explain everything that I am doing and will be happy to answer any questions you may have. And as an extra bonus, I will even include some special settings to the encoder based on my extensive experience with it that I have not posted in this article. If you can communicate in fluent English, contact me at slingdiy-com@max-soft.com for more details.
"Sitting
on the fence about hiring John for one-on-one support to get
your DIY Slingbox working? Just do it. This guy knows what
he is doing. If you have already spent hours trying to solve
your problem(s), it’s time to contact John. He could have
had me up and running in no time but it took a little longer
because I wanted to learn all about it. John was very
patient and took the time to explain what he was doing every
step of the way. He even led me through an interface he
could not see in helping me to set up my port forwards with
Comcast. Based on my experience, I’m confident he can have
you up and running in no time, provided you follow his
handout first. And don’t worry- he won’t treat you like
you’re stupid. Seriously, contact John. What is your time
worth?" "After
reading about an alternative to Slingbox, posted
by John, I contacted him. He guided me what
equipment I needed to buy, and I bought support
to set it up. John was so on time, and patient
and helped me get it working. He was very
professional and courteous. If you want an
alternative to slingbox, this works. Again,
thank you so much John for your support and
patience. It is greatly appreciated." "I
appreciate the excellent and timely support
which is exactly what I needed and would
definitely recommend to others requiring
assistance in getting their setup to work !
Thanks !!"
"John…Thank you so much for your help and going
the extra mile on my setup. "John was
extremely helpful in guiding me through the
process to get this set up.
"I was very happy to have
found an article on-line that talked about replacing
slingbox with a HDMI Encoder. John wrote that article. As
I'm not really sure about assigning ports and setting bit
rates etc. I arranged for John to use a remote computer
program to set up my encoder so that I could continue
streaming my satellite signal overseas as I travel. Just
want to let everyone out there know and who needs help
setting up a new encoder that John was very friendly and
explained everything that he was doing and was able to
quickly have me up and running. He told me a few things that
I could do which will really come in handy. I certainly
would recommend the service that he offers. Was a pleasure
to do business with him."
"John was able to help me out and clean up
some additional errors on my router no problem! When Dish
shut my SlingBox down I was in a panic, but thanks to John’s
solution and hands on assistance, all is good and back to
normal :) Thanks again John!"
"When I had trouble setting up my port
forwarding, John's help was invaluable. He not only quickly
resolved my issue but set up several useful shortcuts and a
dynamic DNS address, all in less than the hour we'd
allotted. Can't recommend highly enough."
"John was great at helping me set up and
configure the Slingbox replacement device. He explained the
different features of the device and the web configuration
page to me so that I'd know how to make changes and
troubleshoot in the future. Now I have cable streaming back
up and running, with even better image quality than Slingbox
used to provide. Thanks John!"
"From the step-by-step write up through
some needed guidance in port forwarding, John was able to
help guide me through the process. When I needed some help
with network troubleshooting, he was able to identify the
correct network settings and help to explain the reasoning
behind the settings. He was very helpful, friendly, and was
able to answer the many questions that I had. In the end, I
now have a better setup than I had with the Slingbox: a
better picture, smoother stream, and the ability to watch
the stream remotely on my television. I would most
definitely recommend using this set up solution and reaching
out to John for any guidance. Many thanks! "
"I was very impressed with the “hands-on”
personal service provided to me to make this Slingbox
replacement work. I ordered the products from Amazon, and
after doing the basic connections as instructed, I was fully
operational within one hour. I can now access my home cable
service from anywhere in the world remotely with no
restrictions. Excellent throughout. Thank you."
"As a Slingbox user since 2011, I'm so
grateful that John is helping to fill the void Sling created
when they took down their servers. I could certainly tell
he'd walked a lot of people through the process and he was
able to troubleshoot a couple of hurdles caused by my
particular cable provider with ease. If you're looking for a
Slingbox replacement and don't have the technical know how
to to navigate the configuration setup nuances, I highly
recommend John's solution and service!"
"Thank you for working with me to set up
my Slingbox replacement. It is working flawlessly on all my
devices using VLC. You were able to quickly and efficiently
solve my port forwarding issue and you answered all of my
questions. The system I have now works so much better than
my Slingbox ever did. Thanks again."
"The setup instructions John provided on
his website for his DIY Slingbox were easy to follow even
for a non-technical person. I had some issues connecting
through the internet and got some one-on-one time with John.
He was able to quickly get me on-line and connected so I
could access the encoder streams outside of my home. He also
set up each of the encoder streams to accommodate various
connection speeds I might experience when away from home and
explained how/when to use them. Overall, a very positive
experience working with John and I would highly recommend
both his solution and his one-on-one support."
"After reading about an alternative to
Slingbox, I contacted John. He guided me about what
equipment I needed to buy. I thought briefly about trying to
set it up on my own with his free instructions but chose to
use his support and glad I did. John was great to work with
and helped me get it working. Even though I'm techie enough
to get myself in trouble he was worth it as I'm sure I would
have spent way more time. I did run into a small problem and
he helped me work through it. He was very professional and
courteous. If you want an alternative to slingbox, this
works. Again, thank you so much John for your support and
patience and coming up with an alternative. Enjoying TV from
anywhere with good wifi."
"Hello John. Thanks for all your
help. The Assisted DYI setup was the way to go me. HIGHLY
RECOMMEND. We use it just like the old Slingbox. I have full
access to my STB/DVR Frontier. Just perfect. I am very
pleased with your services. You made it very easy for me. I
never could get the Broadlink to work but I am happy with
the MoesGo. Great work. Thank you" |
CUSTOM VIDEO STREAMING APPI soon plan to offer an app that will allow you to easily view* your video stream on your phone or TV (Android, Firestick and if it is popular, iPhones/iPads too). It will be much easier to use than VLC and it will have some very cool features that even VLC doesn't have because my app will be fully optimized for this exact slingbox alternative streaming setup/system:
Check this page
periodically for updates on when the app will be
released *Please understand that my app will allow you to ONLY VIEW your video stream (and with some UNIQUE cool features) - but it will NOT have built-in support to remotely control your video source because it would take hundreds and hundreds of additional hours of development to add that ability to the app due to all the different types of video equipment out there and all the different possible buttons for each of them. However, my app will allow you to quickly switch back and forth between your remote control app and the video stream in my app to help provide a more seamless experience. |
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I hope this is OK, and that you will enjoy using this
article to help you build your own slingbox
alternative/replacement! :)
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